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kerpingtack) wrote2007-08-18 05:22 am
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there are five different kinds of chairs in this hotel room
Yeah, that was pretty much the only part of the movie I found funny.
Knocked Up is very much like the 40 Year Old Virgin in that everyone was saying that this is the funniest best comedy in forrreevvvvverrrrrr and for me it's just like a long chain of "oh... yeah... sure, I can see how that could be amusing, I guess." I found 40 Yr Old Virgin funnier though. The emotional content in both was good.
I don't like Seth Rogen. In everything I've seen him in (er... this, Freaks and Geeks, 40 Yr Old), there's something mean and insincere about him. He was better toward the end of the movie, but there was so much fucking suspension of disbelief at the beginning. I know we're meant to think that because he's funny he's supposed to be charming and that's why someone who looks like Katie Heigl would think about hooking up with someone who looks like Seth Rogen for the long haul but he ISN'T charming and I couldn't see why I was supposed to like him. That sounds really bad. But seriously. Okay I guess that if he was someone I found attractive I wouldn't be so dead against it, depending on the charm of the person. If he was good-looking but a complete wooden board I would still be like uh, what the fuck. Because you know what? When you have the character be this crude jobless guy with completely off-putting friends (who I get are supposed to be funny and charming too but they don't prove themselves to be either) you need him to have a personality that makes up for that. I guess he was nice enough. He didn't really have much of a personality. I think I just find Seth Rogen utterly unconvincing.
Tired of hot girl + schlubby guy message*. Hollywood/TV industry is so depressing. All girls need to be super attractive to be normal; anything less is comic relief and/or background support. Yeah, and how many girls were in this movie? I think about five. That's great.
* Makes me all crazy, like "okay it's like a don't be superficial lesson, because looks aren't supposed to be that important and it's fuckfaced to go around saying she's too hot for him" and that is indeed true. BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE why the fuck don't we see any really average women in lead roles w/o the super-emphasis on the "she's SO PLAIN" angle? And why are guys' super awareness of attractiveness so played up? The message is really "guys will only like you if you're outrageously hot"/"you're not supposed to care about their looks, only your own" for girls, "as long as you don't treat her like total dirt, you are entitled to an outrageously hot girl" for guys. It's not fair. Guys are ALREADY watching these kinds of movies anyway; they don't need to draw them in w/ teh hott. Is like having a normal girl in a comedy seen as a wimpy move?
Also this movie is really white. Most comedies are (most movies in general obvs), but this one struck me right from the beginning. I think it was the opening credits footage, because that group of friends was just "slackery white males!!!!11 this is what we do this is who we are!!!". There was something about this movie that seemed like it was reaaally meant to speak to the aforementioned slackery white male audience. I mean most comedies do this, but this wasn't so much ridiculous and thus dismissable as it was realistic. I don't know. I just felt like I couldn't relate to aaaanyone in this movie.
Leslie Mann plays the no-bullshit blonde really well. She's kind of a shrew in this movie though. I sympathize and she's a good actress but... shrill. She reads his emails and stuff! But in retrospect I think Pete and Debbie's story would've made a much more interesting et better movie. They had personalities and everything!
Katherine Heigl was pretty and she does very well with emotional scenes (not so much the regular stuff; she's sort of just there) but WOW they gave her no personality. We don't know anything about her except that she's an E! correspondent person, that she's nice enough, that she's pretty, and she's pregnant.
The good: Emotional content convincingly acted and troothful. Especially Pete and Debbie's relationship.
Alan Tudyk and nervous mumbly female as the E! bosses.
Darryl from the Office's scene as a bouncer.
The five chairs thing.
Paul Rudd is charming. He's got kind of a big head (physically, not personality-wise). That's it.
I'm taking out a lot of "grr stereotypes what's wrong with the movie/TV industry" issues out on this movie even though there are way way worse offenders. It's just that Knocked Up has so much critical buzz around it, I would've expected it to be, if not funny, you know, GOOD.
Knocked Up is very much like the 40 Year Old Virgin in that everyone was saying that this is the funniest best comedy in forrreevvvvverrrrrr and for me it's just like a long chain of "oh... yeah... sure, I can see how that could be amusing, I guess." I found 40 Yr Old Virgin funnier though. The emotional content in both was good.
I don't like Seth Rogen. In everything I've seen him in (er... this, Freaks and Geeks, 40 Yr Old), there's something mean and insincere about him. He was better toward the end of the movie, but there was so much fucking suspension of disbelief at the beginning. I know we're meant to think that because he's funny he's supposed to be charming and that's why someone who looks like Katie Heigl would think about hooking up with someone who looks like Seth Rogen for the long haul but he ISN'T charming and I couldn't see why I was supposed to like him. That sounds really bad. But seriously. Okay I guess that if he was someone I found attractive I wouldn't be so dead against it, depending on the charm of the person. If he was good-looking but a complete wooden board I would still be like uh, what the fuck. Because you know what? When you have the character be this crude jobless guy with completely off-putting friends (who I get are supposed to be funny and charming too but they don't prove themselves to be either) you need him to have a personality that makes up for that. I guess he was nice enough. He didn't really have much of a personality. I think I just find Seth Rogen utterly unconvincing.
Tired of hot girl + schlubby guy message*. Hollywood/TV industry is so depressing. All girls need to be super attractive to be normal; anything less is comic relief and/or background support. Yeah, and how many girls were in this movie? I think about five. That's great.
* Makes me all crazy, like "okay it's like a don't be superficial lesson, because looks aren't supposed to be that important and it's fuckfaced to go around saying she's too hot for him" and that is indeed true. BUT IF THAT IS THE CASE why the fuck don't we see any really average women in lead roles w/o the super-emphasis on the "she's SO PLAIN" angle? And why are guys' super awareness of attractiveness so played up? The message is really "guys will only like you if you're outrageously hot"/"you're not supposed to care about their looks, only your own" for girls, "as long as you don't treat her like total dirt, you are entitled to an outrageously hot girl" for guys. It's not fair. Guys are ALREADY watching these kinds of movies anyway; they don't need to draw them in w/ teh hott. Is like having a normal girl in a comedy seen as a wimpy move?
Also this movie is really white. Most comedies are (most movies in general obvs), but this one struck me right from the beginning. I think it was the opening credits footage, because that group of friends was just "slackery white males!!!!11 this is what we do this is who we are!!!". There was something about this movie that seemed like it was reaaally meant to speak to the aforementioned slackery white male audience. I mean most comedies do this, but this wasn't so much ridiculous and thus dismissable as it was realistic. I don't know. I just felt like I couldn't relate to aaaanyone in this movie.
Leslie Mann plays the no-bullshit blonde really well. She's kind of a shrew in this movie though. I sympathize and she's a good actress but... shrill. She reads his emails and stuff! But in retrospect I think Pete and Debbie's story would've made a much more interesting et better movie. They had personalities and everything!
Katherine Heigl was pretty and she does very well with emotional scenes (not so much the regular stuff; she's sort of just there) but WOW they gave her no personality. We don't know anything about her except that she's an E! correspondent person, that she's nice enough, that she's pretty, and she's pregnant.
The good: Emotional content convincingly acted and troothful. Especially Pete and Debbie's relationship.
Alan Tudyk and nervous mumbly female as the E! bosses.
Darryl from the Office's scene as a bouncer.
The five chairs thing.
Paul Rudd is charming. He's got kind of a big head (physically, not personality-wise). That's it.
I'm taking out a lot of "grr stereotypes what's wrong with the movie/TV industry" issues out on this movie even though there are way way worse offenders. It's just that Knocked Up has so much critical buzz around it, I would've expected it to be, if not funny, you know, GOOD.