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counting at war ([personal profile] kerpingtack) wrote2011-12-12 11:58 am

PARADIGM SHIFT

My sister just pointed out that maybe Jonghyun should be romanized as Jonghyeon, just like in those old posts from when SHINee first debuted and no one knew the official English spelling!! noooooooooooooo!!! It's because his name has ㅕ in it (종현), like Taeyeon (태연) and Hyoyeon (효연). If it were Jonghyun with the "u", it would be ㅜ/ㅠ ("oo") like in Yunho (윤호)?? So, like... Jonghyoon (종휸)? LOL ;~; Maybe the rule is different when there's a consonant (ㅇ doesn't really count; it's like an empty placeholder sound), because Seohyun (서현) and like, ramyun (라면) are also spelled with "u" ("hyun"/"myun"). Plus sometimes ㅜ/ㅠ will be written as "oo" instead of "u" like in Yoona (윤아) even though I guess it should technically be Yun-ah? (As a sidenote, 'Kim Yuna' should seriously be spelled Yeon-ah (연아).) But Onew (온유) isn't spelled Onyu or Onyoo. omg romanization rules are so confusing. Maybe for names, they just go by aesthetics. That seems to be the most logical answer, lol.

Okay while I have the language bar set to Korean~ girl!Onew's name is not really Eunsook (은숙), it should be Onsook (온숙) because they kept the first part of all their first names, or a close approximation in Key's case. Similarly, Junghee (정희) should be Jonghee (종희). The other three names are correct though. (~quick proof of the Korean spelling~)

Now I'm googling Korean romanization rules. Such wonders and progress I make in my life! ?__?

[identity profile] counttheplanes.livejournal.com 2011-12-15 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
om nom nom your brains are smart *~*

LOL I don't have anything to add! All of this makes perfect sense, particularly the point about native speakers themselves not knowing or really needing to know romanization systems. The official spelling of my Korean name is weird and doesn't follow any system that I know of, probably because my parents didn't know and just put down what looked close enough to them.

ikr, it's like a totally official mispronunciation of her name now. Who decided on that spelling? :<

heee me too! Can't believe I forgot how much I liked writing long comments lol.

[identity profile] kipling.livejournal.com 2011-12-15 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
lol not really but ty ;w; and oh yeah ia, like my name uses Taiwanese romanisation which tbh ought to be easier for foreigners than the mainland equivalent but :| jw does your name use a hyphen/space (i.e. Jong Hyun or Jong-hyun as opposed to Jonghyun or JongHyun or whatever)? I don't know if there's something standardised about that, it seems like personal preference?

btw SHINee is going to be at MBC's Gayo Daejun, CRYING ; ____ ; also the new Korean album must be coming out in early 2012? idk I have high hopes *^* kind of ignoring the rumour of a new Japanese single bc Key's been hinting at the Korean album so much + they sang a new (I think Korean?) song at Minho's birthday party ;w;

and I forgot to link you to this song as part of my C.N.Blue recs yesterday, it's written by Yonghwa and is so solidly jrock (the song and the PV), I love it *^*

[identity profile] counttheplanes.livejournal.com 2011-12-15 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, you~ ♥

No, it doesn't have a hyphen, and there is so much variation about that, I think it must be personal preference.

omg I heard rumors about the Gayo but I hardly dared to hope ,__, okay looks like I'll be staying up till 6 AM then!! crying I'm going to be back on twitter by then so I can spam 5000000 tweets in a row and lock myself in twitter jail.

Oh I didn't know they sang a new song at Minho's bday!! omg omg omg *~* NO I refuse the possibility of a new Japanese single, they've been dropping hints about the Korean album or something happening near the end of the year so so so they're going to come back soon. Our collective hopes will make it so ;~;

omg ty for the link! I can't think of a way to make it sound like I'm not just politely saying "this is nice" lol but I really like the song! And Lie! LOL the In My Head PV really is so jrock with all the debris and general garbage flying at them while they play in a void.

[identity profile] kipling.livejournal.com 2011-12-15 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, I'm so happy omg ;w; here's the full lineup if you want it! so excited for their stage, screams!!

oh maybe it's in Japanese ... "shinee sang a song that was not included in The First. it’s a new song that’s in the making." (cr. keysir) but they wouldn't do that to us would they omg Q u Q KEY WOULDN'T LIE ABOUT COMING BACK TO KOREA THOUGH :(

lol ikr, it's so great ;w; they all look so good! and hehe I'm glad you like Lie, I'm so attached to that song lol ;w;